"It made me sad reading about that woman, to be driven to such a measure is indicative of how bad it actually is in some areas, but you have to admit, co-ercing a spacker to 'lift her nightie up' is up there with knock a door run and theiving bottles of milk off doorsteps .. not everyday for months/years on end. if it was your daughter? or is it ok because she was disabled? doesn't matter now though does it? they are both dead. only a harmless bit of fun. discuss? was gonna suggest your user name should be 'benni' 77, but i'd lose the moral high ground"